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Post by Bandit » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:55 pm

They do but the record label gets a big chunk before the artist even gets their piece to split with their management, co-writers, producers, etc. The record labels signed with streaming services on their own so it was a deal to their advantage. It's up to the artist to try to renegotiate, but only a few like Taylor Swift had the power to do so.

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Post by Big Boss Man » Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:57 am

Thanks, yea I read something a few years back about how little money artists are making from Spotify. I know Prince wasn't down with YouTube etc but his music was on Tidal. In theory Taylor Swift and other top level artists could set up their own streaming services and make more money. Ideally you need to be an artist who writes, produces, engineers, release music on your own label then you wouldn't have to split money elsewhere. But even then no ones going to get rich from streaming services which is why majority of artists tour and make money through sponsorships etc.

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Post by Bandit » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:24 am

Tidal hasn't been very successful so I don't think people want to bother trying to take on Apple and Spotify and now SiriusXM putting lots of money into Pandora, which will get them installed in new cars since SiriusXM has those deals in the US. Tidal offered exclusive content, but it just can't compete where you've got gigantic catalogs of nearly everyone on competitors services. When they do stuff like an exclusive Jay-Z album people will subscribe for a month with a free trial and cancel. So Swift was smarter to just use leverage to get a better deal than spend money on a start up that could never turn a profit.

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Post by Big Boss Man » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:06 am

Yea that's true. In theory its really the labels deciding whether an artists music is available. If Prince got his WB masters back he could have pulled all those albums from Spotify and streamed them on his website. From memory I cant think of an artist(s) who completely own their masters, publishing etc. Frank Zappa maybe, but I believe Sony have the rights to one or a few of his albums. So when labels own your masters they can do with them as they see fit. MJ should have got his masters from Epic/CBS and kept 100% control of his publishing. But Sony/ATV own it all now sadly. Sony have the Elvis catalog, Whitney, Princes NPG era music and soon they'll get his WB songs and albums, Bruce Springsteen etc. I don't think Taylor owns her masters and likely her management are in control over decisions regarding her music. MJ was real savvy picking up the Beatles catalogue but in the end he was forced to do those 50 shows which sadly I think were too much pressure. One show on worldwide TV like Elvis from Aloha was should have been enough or put it on PPV. I think his career was mismanaged and still find it weird John Branca came back into the picture & is the executor of his estate. The whole Spotify thing reminds me of something I read in one of the Motown books where Berry Gordy had his artists on the industries lowest royalty rates.

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Music video charts that week

MTV
1) Guns N' Roses - Estranged
2) Cher with Beavis & Butthead - I Got You Babe
3) Salt-N-Pepa featuring En Vogue - Whatta Man
4) Stone Temple Pilots - Creep
5) Aerosmith - Amazing
6) Nirvana - All Apologies (Unplugged)
7) Gin Blossoms - Found Out About You
8) Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers - Mary Jane's Last Dance
9) The Breeders - Cannonball
10) Toni Braxton - Breathe Again
11) Domino - Getto Jam
12) Rage Against The Machine - Freedom
13) Danzig - Mother '93
14) Us3 - Cantaloop
15) Mariah Carey - Hero
16) Janet Jackson - Again
17) Candlebox - You
18) Cracker - Low
19) 2pac - Keep Ya Head Up
20) Snoop Doggy Dogg - Who Am I (What's My Name)

VH1
1) Bryan Adams, Sting & Rod Stewart - All For Love
2) Rod Stewart - Having A Party (Unplugged)
3) Mariah Carey - Hero
4) Jimmy Cliff - I Can See Clearly Now
5) Michael Bolton - Said I Loved You....But I Lied
6) Bryan Adams - Please Forgive Me
7) Celine Dion - The Power Of Love
8) Toni Braxton - Breathe Again
9) Bruce Springsteen - Streets Of Philadelphia
10) Ace Of Base - All That She Wants
11) Tevin Campbell - Can We Talk
12) Billy Joel - All About Soul
13) Janet Jackson - Again
14) Richard Marx - Now And Forever
15) Kenny G - Sentimental
16) Meat Loaf - Rock & Roll Dreams Come Through
17) Phil Collins - Everyday
18) Elton John featuring Kiki Dee - True Love
19) Bruce Hornsby - Fields Of Gray
20) Heart - Will You Be There

BET
1) Domino - Getto Jam
2) Tevin Campbell - Can We Talk
3) Salt-N-Pepa featuring En Vogue - Whatta Man
4) Hammer - It's All Good
5) Xscape - Understanding
6) Mint Condition - U Send Me Swingin'
7) Mariah Carey - Hero
8) CeCe Peniston - I'm In The Mood
9) Freddie Jackson - Make Love Easy
10) Ralph Tresvant - Who's The Mack
11) Queen Latifah - U.N.I.T.Y.
12) SWV - Always On My Mind
13) Hammer - Pumps And A Bump
14) DBGz - Bang Bang Boogie
15) Hi-Five - Never Should've Let You Go
16) Jodeci - Cry For You
17) Shai - Yours
18) Prince - Nothing Compares 2 U
19) De La Soul - Ego Trippin'
20) KRS-One - Sound Of Da Police

THE BOX
1) Eazy-E - Real Compton City Gz
2) A Tribe Called Quest - Award Tour
3) Bloods & Crips - Steady Dippin'
4) D.R.S. - Gangsta Lean
5) The Conscious Daughters - Fonky Expedition
6) K7 - Zunga Zeng
7) Snoop Doggy Dogg - Who Am I (What's My Name)
8) MC Ren - Same Ol'
9) Outkast - Player's Ball
10) Hammer - It's All Good
11) DFC featuring MC Eiht - Caps Get Peeled
12) Patra - Queen Of The Pack
13) Masta Ace Inc. - Born To Roll
14) 12 Gauge - Dunkie Butt (Please Please Please)
15) KRS-One - Sound Of Da Police
16) Father MC - 69
17) Wu Tang Clan - Method Man
18) Cypress Hill - We Ain't Goin' Out Like That
19) Jeru The Damaja - Come Clean
20) Born Jamericans - Boom Shak-A-Tack

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1) Mariah Carey - Hero
2) Toni Braxton - Breathe Again
3) Bryan Adams - Please Forgive Me
4) Salt-N-Pepa featuring En Vogue - Whatta Man
5) Bryan Adams, Sting & Rod Stewart - All For Love
6) Janet Jackson - Again
7) Celine Dion - The Power Of Love
8) Ace Of Base - All That She Wants
9) Tevin Campbell - Can We Talk
10) 10,000 Maniacs - Because The Night
11) Ace Of Base - The Sign
12) Jimmy Cliff - I Can See Clearly Now
13) Babyface - Never Keeping Secrets
14) The Cranberries - Linger
15) Xscape - Understanding
16) Culture Beat - Mr. Vain
17) Haddaway - What Is Love
18) Gin Blossoms - Found Out About You
19) Zhane - Hey Mr. DJ
20) Meat Loaf - I'd Do Anything For Love
21) Queen Latifah - U.N.I.T.Y.
22) Domino - Getto Jam
23) Billy Joel - River Of Dreams
24) All-4-One - So Much In Love
25) Pearl Jam - Daughter
26) Xscape - Just Kickin' It
27) Snoop Doggy Dogg - Who Am I (What's My Name)
28) Jodeci - Cry For You
29) Aerosmith - Amazing
30) Phil Collins - Everyday
31) Us3 - Cantaloop
32) Rod Stewart - Having A Party (Unplugged)
33) D.R.S. - Gangsta Lean
34) Mariah Carey - Dreamlover
35) Shaquille O'Neal - (I Know I Got) Skillz
36) Def Leppard - Miss You In A Heartbeat
37) Eternal - Stay
38) Gabrielle - Dreams
39) Salt-N-Pepa - Shoop
40) Hi-Five - Never Should've Let You Go
41) Zapp & Roger - Slow And Easy
42) Eazy-E - Real Muthaphuckkin' Gz
43) R. Kelly - Sex Me (Parts I & II)
44) Mint Condition - U Send Me Swingin'
45) Beck - Loser
46) Ice Cube - Really Doe
47) A Tribe Called Quest - Award Tour
48) Color Me Badd - Choose
49) 2pac - Keep Ya Head Up
50) Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers - Mary Jane's Last Dance

Rock radio
1) Pearl Jam - Daughter
2) Nirvana - All Apologies
3) Beck - Loser
4) Counting Crows - Mr. Jones
5) Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers - Mary Jane's Last Dance
6) Gin Blossoms - Found Out About You
7) Aerosmith - Amazing
8) Smashing Pumpkins - Today
9) Stone Temple Pilots - Creep
10) The Breeders - Cannonball
11) Candlebox - You
12) Cracker - Get Off This
13) U2 - Stay (Faraway, So Close)
14) The Lemonheads - Into Your Arms
15) Megadeth - 99 Ways To Die
16) Guns N' Roses - Estranged
17) Danzig - Mother '93
18) Alice In Chains - Down In A Hole
19) Tool - Sober
20) Afghan Whigs - Debonair

R&B
1) Jodeci - Cry For You
2) Xscape - Understanding
3) Tevin Campbell - Can We Talk
4) Babyface - Never Keeping Secrets
5) Eternal - Stay
6) Tony! Toni! Tone! - Lay Your Head On My Pillow
7) Zhane - Groove Thang
8) Toni Braxton - Breathe Again
9) Mariah Carey - Hero
10) SWV - Always On My Mind
11) Mint Condition - U Send Me Swingin'
12) Mary J. Blige - You Don't Have To Worry
13) Hi-Five - Never Should've Let You Go
14) CeCe Peniston - I'm In The Mood
15) D.R.S. - Gangsta Lean
16) Xscape - Just Kickin' It
17) Freddie Jackson - Make Love Easy
18) R. Kelly - Sex Me (Parts I & II)
19) Zapp & Roger - Slow And Easy
20) Janet Jackson - Again

Rap
1) Domino - Getto Jam
2) Salt-N-Pepa featuring En Vogue - Whatta Man
3) Queen Latifah - U.N.I.T.Y.
4) 12 Gauge - Dunkie Butt (Please Please Please)
5) 2pac - Keep Ya Head Up
6) Shaquille O'Neal - (I Know I Got) Skillz
7) Tag Team - (Whoomp!) There It Is
8) Snoop Doggy Dogg - Who Am I (What's My Name)
9) A Tribe Called Quest - Award Tour
10) Eazy-E - Real Muthaphuckkin' Gz
11) Ice Cube - Really Doe
12) Us3 - Cantaloop
13) Born Jamericans - Boom Shak-A-Tack
14) Father MC - 69
15) KRS-One - Sound Of Da Police
16) Das EFX - Freakit
17) MC Ren - Same Ol' Shit
18) Cypress Hill - We Ain't Goin' Out Like That
19) Mista Grimm - Indo Smoke
20) Lords Of The Underground - Here Come The Lords

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Post by Bandit » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:32 am

Music video charts his week in 1995

MTV
1) Green Day - When I Come Around
2) TLC - Creep
3) REM - Bang And Blame
4) Ini Kamoze - Here Comes The Hot Stepper
5) Weezer - Buddy Holly
6) Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers - You Don't Know How It Feels
7) Boyz II Men - On Bended Knee
8) Hole - Doll Parts
9) Snoop Doggy Dogg - Murder Was The Case
10) Soundgarden - Fell On Black Days
11) Live - I Alone
12) Stone Temple Pilots - Interstate Love Song
13) Blackstreet - Before I Let You Go
14) Veruca Salt - Seether
15) Brandy - I Wanna Be Down
16) Van Halen - Don't Tell Me What Love Can Do
17) Nirvana - The Man Who Sold The World
18) Madonna - Take A Bow
19) Bush - Everything Zen
20) Rancid - Salvation

VH1
1) Madonna - Take A Bow
2) Des'ree - You Gotta Be
3) Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers - You Don't Know How It Feels
4) REM - Bang And Blame
5) Boyz II Men - On Bended Knee
6) Hootie & The Blowfish - Hold My Hand
7) Melissa Etheridge - I'm The Only One
8) Gloria Estefan - Turn The Beat Around
9) Vanessa Williams - The Sweetest Days
10) Gin Blossoms - Alison Road
11) Sheryl Crow - Strong Enough
12) Sting - When We Dance
13) Aimee Mann - That's Just What You Are
14) Toad The Wet Sprocket - Something's Always Wrong
15) Urge Overkill - Girl, You'll Be A Woman Soon
16) Madonna - Secret
17) John Mellencamp - Wild Night
18) John Secada - Mental Picture
19) Amy Grant featuring Vince Gill - House Of Love
20) Portishead - Sour Times

BET
1) Brandy - I Wanna Be Down
2) TLC - Creep
3) Jade - Every Day Of The Week
4) Soul For Real - Candy Rain
5) Mary J. Blige - Be Happy
6) Brownstone - If You Love Me
7) Nine - Whatchuwant
8) Craig Mack - Get Down
9) Zhane - Shame
10) Karyn White - Can I Stay With You
11) Vicious - Nika
12) N II U - I Miss You
13) missjones - Where I Wanna Be Boy
14) Notorious B.I.G. - Big Poppa
15) Portrait - I Can Call You
16) Jewell - Woman To Woman
17) Blackstreet - Before I Let You Go
18) Method Man - Bring The Pain
19) Gerald Levert - I Can't Help Myself
20) Changing Faces - Foolin' Around

THE BOX
1) Mel-Low - Money, Houses & Clothes
2) Bone Thugs-N-Harmony - Foe Tha Love Of $
3) Too $hort - Cocktales
4) Notorious B.I.G. - Big Poppa
5) Craig Mack - Get Down
6) Thug Life - Cradle To The Grave
7) Ice Cube - What Can I Do
8) Dr. Dre featuring Ice Cube - Natural Born Killaz
9) Nuttin' Nyce - Down 4 Whateva
10) E-40 - 1 Luv
11) Snoop Doggy Dogg - Murder Was The Case
12) Rappin' 4-Tay - Playaz Club
13) Scarface - I Seen A Man Die
14) 69 Boyz - Kitty Kitty
15) Dru Down - Mack Of The Year
16) Paris - One Time Fo Ya Mind
17) Method Man - Bring The Pain
18) Gravediggaz - 1-800-Suicide
19) Redman featuring The Mary Jane Girls - Can't Wait
20) Deion Sanders - Must Be The Money

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