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Re: WWE Thread (Spoilers)

Post by Dr. Zoidberg » Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:27 pm

It's going to be interesting to see what weird shit (or weirder shit) they start doing if AEW and maybe some of the other shows rate well.

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Post by Big Boss Man » Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:10 am

Yea it will be. I think if AEW starts getting really popular with them being TV-14 WWE may have to switch gears and go back to that again. But the issue they have is I expect Fox want them to still be PG, Mattel and their advertiser's, sponsors etc. would too. AEW have the most to gain right now and they are already ahead since I can't imagine them ending Dynamite on Wednesday with what WWE did yesterday. They have arguably their best roster ever yet come up with the champ being scared of a clown mask and two cuckold angles. It's like watching Russo booked WCW again :olol:

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Post by Bandit » Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:10 am

Meltzer said the cuck stuff is Heyman's idea because he has "a close friend" in wrestling who is going through it. I'm guessing not Brock. Dreamer and Beulah? Raven?

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Post by Bandit » Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:21 pm

Meltzer said AEW had talks with Cain but once WWE added in the Saudi Arabia show money to their deal they couldn't match it. Which is why he's wrestling Brock at Crown Jewel instead of Wrestlemania.

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Post by Dr. Zoidberg » Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:27 pm

Oh well, at least it makes the next Saudi show interesting.

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Re: WWE Thread (Spoilers)

Post by Dr. Zoidberg » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:37 pm

This Shorty Gable stuff is terrible. I imagine "Shorty" is what women call Vince when they see him with his pants down in tanning salons.

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Post by Bandit » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:58 pm

According to Meltzer Vince thinks this is going to make him endearing to fans.

And Paul Heyman, who got a guy his height over as the ultimate killer, is there in booking meetings. Imagine if Joey Styles spent commentary time on Taz matches joking about how short he was. But the booking was so good people didn't notice Bill Alphonso was slightly taller than Taz.

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Post by Ocelot » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:39 am

I tried to watch that PPV last night but it was so boring that I just fast forwarded to the main event and watched the WWE utilize two of its best talents and one of their greatest match concepts and stir all three ingredients together and create a CATHEDRAL OF SHIT that was an absolute embarrassment to all involved. May as well retire the Cell concept for a while. I was sad to be a wrestling fan after watching this poop. God damn fuck this company. I hope AEW does unlubed butt things to it.

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Re: WWE Thread (Spoilers)

Post by Big Boss Man » Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:10 am

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/wwe/118 ... nda-Rousey

WWE senior staff salaries:
Figures from mid-2019

Triple H (Executive Vice President of Talent, Live Events and Creative) - $1.1million + $1.65million (talent contract)

Vince McMahon (Chairman - Chief Executive Officer) - $2.4million

George Barrios (Financial and Strategic Officer - $800,000

Kevin Dunn (Producer) - $800,000

WWE men base salaries:
Brock Lesnar $12million

John Cena $8.5million

Roman Reigns $5million

Randy Orton $4.5million

AJ Styles $3.5million

Seth Rollins $3million

The Miz $2.5million

Undertaker $2.5million

Kevin Owens $2million

Dolph Ziggler $1.5million

Sheamus $1million

Jeff Hardy $1million

Bray Wyatt $1million

Jinder Mahal $900,000

Kane $900,000

Big Show $850,000

Samoa Joe $800,000

Rusev $800,000

Sin Cara $700,000

Matt Hardy $650,000

Luke Harper $550,000

Erick Rowan $550,000

R-Truth $550,000

Kofi Kingston $500,000

Xavier Woods $500,000

Big E $500,000

Cesaro $500,000

Sami Zayn $500,000

Tommy Dreamer $500,000

Shinsuke Nakamura $400,000

Heath Slater $400,000

Kalisto $350,000

Titus O’Neil $300,000

Bo Dallas $300,000

Braun Strowman $300,000

Apollo Crews $300,000

Scott Dawson $250,000

Luke Gallows $250,000

Jey Uso $250,000

Jimmy Uso $250,000

Curtis Axel $250,000

Curt Hawkins $200,000

WWE women base salaries:
Ronda Rousey $1.5million

Charlotte Flair $550,000

Nikki Bella $350,000

Alexa Bliss $350,000

Mickie James $300,000

Brie Bella $300,000

Natalya $300,000

Asuka $250,000

Becky Lynch $250,000

Dana Brooke $200,000

Bayley $200,000

Lana $200,000

Naomi $180,000

Carmella $120,000

Nia Jax $100,000

Sonya Deville $100,000

Mandy Rose $80,000

Ruby Riott $80,000

Sarah Logan $80,000

Tamina $80,000

Liv Morgan $80,000

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Re: WWE Thread (Spoilers)

Post by Big Boss Man » Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:13 am

Not sure how accurate this list is and whether it's factored in the Fox money but Tommy D getting paid :olol:

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Re: WWE Thread (Spoilers)

Post by Bandit » Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:40 am

Tommy Dreamer doesn't work there. He's the tag partner of Tessa in Impact.

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Re: WWE Thread (Spoilers)

Post by Big Boss Man » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:59 am

I know, but according to the Telegraph hes getting half a million apparently :olol:

So I watch the Seth/Bray match and ...

At first it's actually not so bad. But once he pulls the big Mallet out and Seth hits about 50 Curb Stomps it just veers into WTF is this territory. The red light throughout is very irritating for a start. But the ending, I mean, a DQ from hitting Bray with a sledgehammer the fraction the size of the mallet that Bray had. He smashes a ladder into his head, steel chair unprotected to the head, a toolbox but the hammer and the ref calls for the bell. Then when he does the mandible with the fake blood I just had to :rofl2: On a comedy scale it's 5 stars but as a match itself then it has to be one of the worse ever. Take the red light away and make it more about Bray being unbeatable and have him go over then the fans would have popped for the title change. The gimmick itself I actually like since it's hokey but reminiscent of earlier incarnation of Mankind mixed with Taker/Kane. I don't know if in 2019 those type of gimmicks work per se but this match was a waste of time and made Seth look even weaker as champion. No wonder the fans were pissed and chanting AEW. That's a big lesson for any promotion going forward as soon as the fans turn on the product you have to make changes. They should have called an audible and had the ref restart the match and Bray wins then at least it would have had a logical finish. But a DQ in a HITC should never be a factor since it's supposedly the most extreme match in WWE.

It's not the talents fault they do what they're booked to do. But from a canonical point of view WWE have made Seth laughable as a credible champion now. That's one point where they should have him come out, lay the belt down and do a worked shoot on how bad that match was to save face. Then even go on hiatus for a while and turn up in NXT under a mask and "rebuild" his image to the fans so he's seen as credible again. Because right now they have him beat any top contender for the championship it devalues them by association. You need to make things make logical sense otherwise even the loyalist fans will tune out. If this was a 50/60 dollar PPV they'd be an uproar online and WWE would have a ton of refund requests.

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Re: WWE Thread (Spoilers)

Post by Bandit » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:05 am

That would be hilarious if Dreamer is still being paid because they forgot they didn't terminate his deal like Nailz in WCW being paid for 2 years and never working.

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Re: WWE Thread (Spoilers)

Post by Hawq » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:31 am

well that HIAC ending was a reall piece of....... something still not sure if it was a good idea to prolong the Fiend stuff & enhance it or if Vince just had a stroke part way through cos that ending (& most of the match to be fair) jesus christ, just felt a bit sloppy & unfinished but they ran out of time & had to throw it together

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Re: WWE Thread (Spoilers)

Post by Ocelot » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:33 pm

Hey Becky Lynch is pushed as one of their top talent and making a quarter of a mill.

That's just sad.

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Re: WWE Thread (Spoilers)

Post by Dr. Zoidberg » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:04 pm

I doubt it's legit. Jinder on $900k & Braun on $300k doesn't sound right.

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Re: WWE Thread (Spoilers)

Post by Ocelot » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:52 pm

It honestly would not surprise me at all. This is the friggin' WWE we're talking about.

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