Help with getting an old computer online in Windows ME

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Help with getting an old computer online in Windows ME

Post by Calavera » Thu May 09, 2019 2:11 pm

What would be the best way to back up the entire HD of an older computer onto a USB drive. The total size of the backup is probably only around 10gb maybe less. I want to back it up in a way so if I wanted to I could copy the contents from the USB drive back onto a hard drive and have everything load up just as it was before.

I have an old Celeron 500mhz I've been messing with and it is one of the few machines I have with a working IDE drive. I may want to use that drive in another machine or install Windows 98SE on the Celeron. The reason I want to back it up is because the computer is from 1999 and still has the original install of Windows ME on it. I know it isn't some big historic thing worth saving but I'd just like to save it if possible.

I haven't used it a ton, Windows ME seems ok. This PC is the only time in my life I've actually used Windows ME. I had no interest in it back in the day. The machine would probably be better off with Windows 98SE with the homemade service pack that includes all the updates and fixes and then run kernalex so I'm able to browse the web somewhat.
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Re: Backup entire HD to a USB stick on old computer

Post by Big Boss Man » Thu May 09, 2019 3:40 pm

There's this program here but I'm assuming it works on newer OS's

https://www.backup-utility.com/free-bac ... tware.html

There's patches/updates for ME too

https://msfn.org/board/topic/176898-win ... ve-update/

There are old browsers which run fairly well on it too like Opera. Or maybe create a partition and dual boot with 98?

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Re: Backup entire HD to a USB stick on old computer

Post by Dr. Zoidberg » Thu May 09, 2019 7:59 pm

I used EaseUS to clone a laptop HDD to SSD a few months ago. I don't know if it works with an older OS though.

https://www.easeus.com/backup-recovery/ ... drive.html

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Re: Backup entire HD to a USB stick on old computer

Post by pixel » Fri May 10, 2019 12:27 am

I'd find an old copy of Ghost. Some sites are claiming that older versions are abandonware.

Or there's Clonezilla, an open source application similar to Ghost.

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Re: Backup entire HD to a USB stick on old computer

Post by Calavera » Fri May 17, 2019 4:38 pm

Thanks for the information everyone. I assumed the ME was the original install because it had a bunch of Compaq crap installed. Then I noticed the sticker on the front of the case said Windows 98! Not only that but the inside of the case has a date stamp of September 1999 and ME didn't come out until a year later in September 2000. So obviously it wasn't original install, and I was also getting some errors here and there about missing system files. So I decided to just do a clean install. I chose ME again for no particular reason. It didn't seem that bad to me, seemed like Windows 98 Third Edition basically. I downloaded the update pack that Big Boss Man recommended. I haven't installed everything yet but will soon.

I had my wireless usb working fine and was able to get on the internet and use decent browsers. The problem I was having was any site that used ssl (which apparently is almost all of them) wouldn't load. I didn't have this problem on 98SE when I was using a Pentium 2. So I'm going to install everything and see if a clean install somehow fixed that problem. If not I'll be putting 98 SE with the latest update pack on it.
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Re: Backup entire HD to a USB stick on old computer

Post by Calavera » Sun May 19, 2019 4:48 pm

I'm posting from the Celeron 500mhz in Windows Millennium right now. I'm surprised I was able to log in. Right now I'm using a web browser called Sea Monkey. When I has Windows 98 set up to get online my preferred browser was K-Meleon. For some reason it won't load in ME. When trying to load the latest version for Windows 9x it says "MSVCR71.DLL was not found" With KernalEX installed it also won't load the latest version KernalEX supports. Right now I'm on a fresh install of Windows ME, the only thing I have installed is the drivers for my wireless USB and the Linksys network monitor which allows you to connect.

I am still having problems connecting to most websites. For example I can go to the K-Meleon main page but when I try to download anything I get the message "Seamonkey can't connect securely to sourceforge.net because the site uses a security protocol that isn't enabled." It isn't just the Seamonkey browser, I've tried several different browsers including Firefox and Opera and get a similar error. I don't understand what the problem can be as when I did the same thing with Windows 98SE on a Pentium 2 I had no problem connecting to any site. I'm going to keep trying to figure this out, but I'm about out of ideas.
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Re: Backup entire HD to a USB stick on old computer

Post by Calavera » Sun May 19, 2019 6:53 pm

I have no idea how to fix this! I get this error on most sites

Cannot communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s).

(Error code: ssl_error_no_cypher_overlap)

What is most annoying is I can't find anybody else talking about this problem. On the KernalEx wiki it acts like the browsers should work fine.
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Re: Help with getting an old computer online in Windows ME

Post by Dr. Zoidberg » Sun May 19, 2019 10:46 pm

You need to enable TLS or SSL3 in the browser.

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Re: Help with getting an old computer online in Windows ME

Post by Calavera » Mon May 20, 2019 6:45 am

Dr. Zoidberg wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 10:46 pm
You need to enable TLS or SSL3 in the browser.

I tried that earlier with no luck :(
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