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Post by Big Boss Man » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:59 am

Nile Rodgers spoke about this in I think one of the documentary series Rock and his ex wife produced for CNN. Basically it was really down to the radio host being a bigot. They'd probably have and continued to deny it but when Disco was heavily associated with the gay community and was despite the success of Saturday Night Fever & the Bee Gees it was a sub genre of black music you can only come to the conclusion the host was racist and/or homophobic. If not why attack a genre of music which didn't advocate anything negative?. Yea you had white acts jumping on the bandwagon putting out Disco records and songs like Disco Duck but generating enough hatred to actually blow the records up, is just too much. They have smashed up Elvis records, Beatles records & Rock and Roll records too in the past so it wasn't a new thing either. But in this case it was a public display of hatred towards not only Disco music but its entire culture. Even now it comes off wrong. Same when majority of white folks protested about Rap music and smashed CDs etc up. Its targeted towards not the content of the music but the artists who make it and that's just incredibly small minded and pathetic.

So yea the "Disco Sucks" and Disco demolition were I believe Trojan horse type marketing campaign so those who partook within could use that to deflect the real reasons behind it. Which were they were racists and homophobes. On the down low perhaps but that's just as bad or even worse. If I find Nile talking about it I'll add the video since its very eye opening getting his perspective.

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Re: Disco Demolition - July 12, 1979

Post by Dr. Zoidberg » Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:43 am

It was probably more anti-gay than anti-black. The main reason would have been because disco took over the charts for a few years and the style of rock they liked started to fade away and die. A lot of radio stations that were rock switched to disco and improved their ratings. Dahl was fired from a rock station that switched to disco.

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Re: Disco Demolition - July 12, 1979

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I don't think racism and homophobia was the key reason. People just didn't like the music and were mad that bands they liked were experimenting with a Disco sound to get airplay. They thought it was mechanical and empty sounding. And not just white Rock fans, black R&B purists despised it too because it took soul out of music in their view. I know a bunch of people black and white of that age group who all hated it simply because they thought it was bad music. I'm not saying there were no racists and homophobic Disco haters, just that most resented it took over the music they liked. Am I homophobic because I didn't like N'Sync and Backstreet Boys taking over music in 1999 or did I just think they were bad?

Plus remember by this time the faces of Disco were the Bee Gees and John Travolta, who were heterosexual and white.

Also black churches were the ones who destroyed gangsta rap CDs in that protest, BTW. Reverend Calvin Butts and C. Delores Tucker.




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Re: Disco Demolition - July 12, 1979

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A lot of soul artists made Disco records though - Curtis, Marvin, Smokey, James Brown for example. I don't think the music Barry White and the Gamble & Huff PIR artists like Teddy P, MFSB, O'Jays, Harold Melvin etc was mechanical either.

I agree R&B purists disliked some of it, but not all. Philly Soul which was very Disco orientated but was popular & sold a ton of records. R&B purists disliked Motown too to a degree and preferred like Stax records artists like Otis. I think like The Supremes, Temptations, Sam Cooke performing at the Copa was more negative to the authenticity of soul music. The difference between Sams Copa live at the Copa and the the Harlem Square club is really night & day. Disco essentially replicated what Motown did and dulled R&B music to be consumed by a white audience. It started out more so as a black music genre but then you had white artists jump on board like Leo Sayer, The Bee Gees etc making Disco albums.

I think even with the Bee Gees their earlier albums were much more Beatles-esque but again you had Al Green covering "How Can You Mend a Broken Heart" and Robins said he patterned his vocal style after Aaron Neville so they were actually fans of soul music. Plus they put out Nights on Broadway, Fanny Be Tender etc when Disco was just sort of breaking out. So I don't think they dulled Disco down. But with any style of music that's popular you get poor imitations and novelty records.

Like in the 90s you had like pop R&B of the Backstreet Boys, NSync which you can trace back to when the Osmonds were trying to emulate the Jackson 5. Did pop R&B dilute the genre, definitely put not to a degree where they smashed up cassettes and CDs en masse. So I do believe the "Disco sucks" thing was fuelled by racist overtones and by homophobia. Most disco records were by black artists and the gay community embraced the Disco genre. Did it crossover yes but the mainstreams musical interests respond to trends as it's always done. Really when you think about it the campaign was aimed at the core audience and again it's my view and opinion on this but it seemed very anti Gay and racial orientated to smash up Disco records. Music has always been trend driven, Elvis sold records he had like Billy Fury, Fabian, Cliff etc come up as competition. Beatles sell records, you get a multitude of Merseybeat groups. Fast forward to more present day Britney sells records you get a ton of similar artists.

Music purists in general likely disliked bubblegum pop but they didn't go on a campaign where they smashed up all the CDs etc. So it wasn't just Rock fans hating on Disco, at least that's my point of view. They twisted it to be about race and sexuality & that really sucks. Because each genre has its place and music has amalgamated so many genres and sub genres now you've got hybrid ones like Rock Rap for example.

Going on to rap, I believe there was a campaign against it before Delores Tucker. PRMC targeted them and if I'm correct they did a mass protest against it by smashing up CDs too. Hip hop again is a predominantly black music genre so was it racially motivated, you know I think so. The PRMC targeted Frank Zappa, Dee Synder of Twisted Sister etc too but again they went after Prince because of Darling Nikki. I mean you had groups putting backwards masking in their records (yea Prince did that too after that song ironically) & having Satantic imagery etc which is surely more damaging to an impressionable audience?.

Not making this as a colour thing though because music shouldn't have any colour and I hate the rhetoric that because of skin colour you can only listen to a certain genre(s) of music. That's BS. Everyone has the right to listen and like or dislike whatever they like. Should you hate on a genre and go on a tirade against a genre though like the radio host did?, no. Granted he was pissed he lost his job over his station switching playlists but to actively hate and drum up hatred among others about a musical genre to me just doesn't sit right. Of course you can dislike it but just don't buy the records and/or listen to them, simple.

But again fast forward some years to when Hip Hop was taking over I believe the radio host would have smashed up Hip Hop albums instead.

Here's part of what I was referring to about what Nile Rodgers was saying here

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In the summer of '79, Disco Sucks killed my band CHIC. But our song "Good Times," went to #1 in spite of this tumultuous event called Disco Demolition... where they dynamited our records, along with a host of other funk and dance artist's music.

Though "Good Times" shot to the top of the charts and had a huge influence on music in general, the band who'd composed and performed it would never have another hit record as CHIC.

Only our love of music kept us going. All we'd ever wanted was to be part of the pop music community, which despite the factionalism, it's basically all rock and roll - the music that gives a voice to the voiceless - and power to the powerless.

Rock and roll is a mindset - a collective of artists who dream anything is possible.

At the end of the 70's every kind of negativism started growing, most likely as a backlash of the perceived victories of underground movements flaunting their triumphs: women's lib, racial equality, the anti-war and gay rights movements, etc. The one thing that seemed to bring everybody together was discotheques.

Some of the most extreme right and left wingers rubbed elbows nightly at clubs like Studio 54... and Studio 54 wannabees around the country. We had a damn good time together and genuinely liked each other as people. We respected each others differing political, religious and sexual points of view.

Our country, and dare I say our world, is very different today. When I was a kid, I hung with any and everybody because we were all together.

Over the years, many wonderful things in my life have been lost. Loss is just a part of the beautiful gift called life.

Not only did I lose my band after Disco Sucks, I lost many of my band mates... and I physically lost our recordings when the studio we'd worked in for years was sold. This felt worse than death. This music was proof that a dance band had existed, and developed their art in this place before and after Disco Sucks.

On June 20, 2010, a number of boxes showed up at my house filled with tapes I'd thought were lost forever. I felt my original CHIC band had one more chance to live. A few months later I was stricken with extremely severe cancer and I said, "Before I die I'm going to do so much music that CHIC won't ever be lost again."

In the last four years I've done more concerts and records than any period of my life. I'm currently cancer free and started to work on the lost CHIC tapes, which includes: analog multi-tracks, two-tracks, cassettes and hand-written scores and lyrics.

Thirty-five years ago the original CHIC Organization LTD commercially and spiritually died. The last original surviving members, along with some of my current band mates, performed a vocal session on a song that was a CHIC Organization out-take, one of the rare few that exists. The session was perfect.

The track has everybody from the 1st CHIC recording session on it, even Luther Vandross. There was more love in that room than I've felt in a long time.

Maybe, There "Is" Life After Death?
This is very TL:DR but I think it needed to be said. We will all have differing views and everyone has a right to an opinion. This is mine and you disagree with it as you see fit. But reading between the lines and reading & hearing what Nile has said and other Disco acts just vanished after the Disco Sucks campaign I do believe had it been a predominantly white driven genre the host wouldn't have went after it with the same energy. I mean you get music listeners who disliked Prog Rock because it dominated the charts for a while but they didn't smash up early Genesis, Yes, Pink Floyd etc records and take them to a football/soccer stadium to smash them to pieces. In hindsight they are seen as pioneering and Rick Wakeman lauded for using Moog synths etc.

Disco musics roots still are within a lot of today's Dance music. House descended from Hi-Nrgy music than had its roots in Disco. Disco also seemed to evolve out of the four on the floor more Uptempo soul records so you listen to Northern Soul records there is strong elements of Disco within them. "The Night" by Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons for example. Again you had cheesy Disco records but you had authentic R&B artists, even like Aretha the Queen of Soul made Disco album with Van McCoy.

Speaking of which you had Van, Norman Whitfield, Norman Harris, Barry White with Gene Page, Gamble & Huff among others putting out sophisticated Disco records which even today soul music connoisseurs listen to. Especially the PIR stuff because this type of Disco music had Soul in it.

So again I believe and it's my opinion the radio host would have targeted any popular black music genre at the time if it were overtaking what he didn't like regardless of the timeframe. Remember you had radio hosts destroy early Rock & Roll music calling it "Devil
Music" and boycotting it. Seen footage of Elvis records etc being smashed up & Elvis was often disliked when he first started because he sounded more like a black R&B artist which is why Sam Phillips at Sun signed him because his sound was one which authenticy to it. I think Peter Guralnick covered this in detail about his first book about Elvis and his one about Southern soul music which most R&B purists would consider the most authentic as it's not as commercialised as Motown was but that's all subjective too. Motown wasn't backed by a major label it was run out of a small building in Detroit. It's just that it's music appealed to everyone regardless of their skin colour and where in the world they were. How music should be, for everyone and everybody.

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Re: Disco Demolition - July 12, 1979

Post by Dr. Zoidberg » Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:29 pm

The disco hate only really started when white people got into it and it started dominating the charts and fashion, nothing else took over as much as disco did. When it was just appearing on Soul Train and urban radio they didn't care, when it became popular with white people was when the backlash kicked in. When rock artists like The Rolling Stones, Kiss & Rod Stewart started making disco records. The fact that a lot of gay people liked it made it an easy target to put down but they weren't going after other things gay people might have liked like musical theatre or other black styles of music like RnB and soul.

They probably would have hated on punk but it didn't affect the charts and radio as much, although it did hurt classic rock. Plus having a punk demolition night at the baseball would have caused way more trouble.

Depeche Mode were hated by the same classic rock fans when they hit it big and they were white and straight.

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Re: Disco Demolition - July 12, 1979

Post by Big Boss Man » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:31 am

A Punk demolition would have resulted in the DJ host getting beat up by the Punks, they'd have stormed in and rioted en masse. They weren't far removed from football hooligans and their IDGAF attitude meant something like that wouldn't have taken place because they've have beat up all the protestors :lol:

Disco I 110% agree was an easy target, yea white artists made it too but it was predominantly a black music genre still. The whole Disco Sucks and Demolition caused a lot of groups to dissolve and labels to close in the fallout. Was over saturation of the music & trends changing a cause too, yea, but it just fell off after the DJs hate campaign.

I have never heard of Depeche Mode being hated on, in fact the complete opposite. Glam Rock wasn't hated, New Wave wasn't hated, New Romantics weren't hated, Punk was disliked but no one publicly slated it, the records by SAW (Kylie, Jason, Rick Astley etc) had critics but again no LPs being smashed/blown up.

Hip Hop was targeted next by the PRMC, C Delores Tucker etc and again the campaign caused major labels to drop their rap subsidiary labels, rappers like Ice T, Tupac et al being hate figures and blamed for social unrest etc. Again I think the negativity was because it was a sub genre of Black music. I mean Heavy metal groups had satanic imagery, backwards masking on their records, lyrical content which was misconstrued by some who committed crime, acts of violence, murder etc. But no one went on an anti Heavy metal campaign, so again and its my 2cents on this, I think the Disco sucks was because a) it was a black music genre and b) because the gay community embraced it. Definitely do agree it was an easy target but the music itself was if you look at the high quality of the records made its not because the genre sucked far from it. You had cheesy novelty records but they exist in most musical genres. So for someone to hate a genre so much to campaign against it,I personally think it was much more racially motivated & homophobic. Notice majority of those in the video are white straight males. Maybe the host got the door slammed in his face at Studio 54 and had beef about it too. Disco as a genre has a lot of substance to it, many songs would today be seen as classics. Don't Stop Til You Get Enough is a disco record, Rock with You is, Boogie Wonderland, Fantasy, Don't Leave Me This Way, The Love I Lost, Love Train,Let the Music Play, My First My Last My Everything among others.

This article is an interesting read

https://sabotagetimes.com/.amp/music/fa ... f-all-time

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Re: Disco Demolition - July 12, 1979

Post by Dr. Zoidberg » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:05 am

Big Boss Man wrote:
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I have never heard of Depeche Mode being hated on, in fact the complete opposite.
They were hated in their earlier days. A young synth band with no guitars or drums.

Also it's not like disco was hated everywhere to that level, it mainly seems to have been working class areas of the US that just wanted rock.

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Going on to rap, I believe there was a campaign against it before Delores Tucker. PRMC targeted them and if I'm correct they did a mass protest against it by smashing up CDs too. Hip hop again is a predominantly black music genre so was it racially motivated, you know I think so. The PRMC targeted Frank Zappa, Dee Synder of Twisted Sister etc too but again they went after Prince because of Darling Nikki. I mean you had groups putting backwards masking in their records (yea Prince did that too after that song ironically) & having Satantic imagery etc which is surely more damaging to an impressionable audience?
Like I said, the CD smashing incident was organized by Calvin Butts, who is black. Gangsta rap probably had as many if not more white defenders in the media. Older people in the black community hated it because they thought it made being a gang member glamorous to black teenagers at a time gang violence was an epidemic. In the white community you didn't have to worry about your kids becoming gangbangers unless it was some goofy West Staines Massive wannabe shit.

And besides Jack Thompson (who was only singling out 2 Live Crew) and Charlton Heston (who was only singling out Ice-T), the white critics of gangsta rap were going after white rock musicians too. Nine Inch Nails, Cannibal Corpse, and especially Marilyn Manson, who got way more protests than every rapper combined in the late 90s. And it's not like Cop Killer wouldn't have been controversial if Metallica made it. So I can't say it was widely racist because I didn't think black musicians were being singled out. Just like I don't think Tipper Gore was racist because she had a problem with Darling Nikki, because she had a problem with Motley Crue and WASP as well.
But no one went on an anti Heavy metal campaign
They did. The 80s had the "Satanic Panic" where Ozzy, Judas Priest, Venom, Slayer, Motley Crue, WASP and many others were accused of trying to use their music to worship Satan and encouraged violence and suicide. It was a huge thing. In the 90s metal had fallen off in popularity and gangsta rap was bigger so Snoop, Ice-T, Tupac, Geto Boys, etc. became the focus along with the Natural Born Killers and Trainspotting films. But then Marilyn Manson became hugely popular and had far more people working against him than Death Row had. People were shutting down their concerts, getting their music pulled from stores, and he had a 1997 Senate hearing mostly about him I think in the UK you just saw him as kind of silly shock rock. But conservatives freaked out about him.

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Re: Disco Demolition - July 12, 1979

Post by Big Boss Man » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:35 am

Thats interesting, I've actually never heard any hatred towards Depeche Mode at all, especially here. Maybe they were a bit poppy when Vince Clarke was in the group but there was other synth driven bands before them like Kraftwerk and they were no different to the New Romantic groups of the time like Spandau Ballet, Human League etc.

The Disco sucks/demolition, I guess you could call it the after affect of it destroyed the genre nationwide though. Labels dropped disco acts, singers who switched to Disco couldn't get anymore hit records. It became the #1 Black music genre so 99.9% of R&B/Soul artists made Disco records. Soon as that popularity bottomed out majority never had another hit record, some just disbanded altogether. So whilst it might have been in just one area, Chicago at the White Sox's stadium, the demolition and Disco Sucks campaign effectively ended the genre altogether.

https://aeon.co/ideas/the-night-when-st ... kill-disco

This is from Dahls book
I’m worn out from defending myself as a racist homophobe for fronting Disco Demolition at Comiskey Park,’ he wrote in his book. ‘This event was just a moment in time. Not racist, not anti-gay … It is important to me to have this viewed in the 1979 lens … That evening was a declaration of independence from the tyranny of sophistication.’
I guess the irony that the music was enjoyed by the Gay community and is a genre of Black music, the leading genre of Black music back then is still lost on him years later :psyduck:

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Re: Disco Demolition - July 12, 1979

Post by Bandit » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:40 am

Anything European was seen as "acting gay" by stupid middle American meatheads back then. Duran Duran and Flock of Seagulls got it too. Depeche Mode had a huge gay fanbase, gay clubs were the first to promote their music early on in America. So they got the gay tag over that. But by Violator they were over that dumb view some had.

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Post by Dr. Zoidberg » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:57 am

I can't remember if it was in an interview or a doco but a few years ago I read/saw Dave Gahan talking about how the English rock journos and fans really hated them in the early to mid 80s.

And they looked like this:

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Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:57 am
I can't remember if it was in an interview or a doco but a few years ago I read/saw Dave Gahan talking about how the English rock journos and fans really hated them in the early to mid 80s.

And they looked like this:

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In the US it was more this look that got them flack

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I didn't see your post first time Bandit but again the campaign against Ozzy and co they didn't smash up their records and go on a Metal sucks campaign. It didn't destroy the genre, sales went up most likely. Hip Hop like Disco took a hit when critics started hating on it. Again Hip Hop became the #1 Black music genre and was targeted. To my knowledge we've never hated on any genre here or taken it too seriously. Punk was inflammatory, Grime sadly I think will be targeted though because of the unfortunate stabbings, murder and gang violence going on in London & other places. So its a lot more real out there than people repping West Staines like Ali G. You from a different area or aren't part of a gang its just as dangerous or even more so because you can't arm yourself, at least legally. Regardless of skin color you'll be targeted - robbed, beat up and if you don't give up your phone, money etc you could be stabbed & killed. So its nothing to mess with. UK cops aren't armed either, prisons no deterrant because we have no capital punishment and life sentences are very rarely truly imposed. So going off topic but thought I'd bring this up because of the Ali G reference

https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2018/ ... lent-crime

Grime took Hip Hop and mixed it with elements of Reggae, Dub, Jungle etc too and its one of the fastest rising genres of music in the UK right now,I think some acts have released music in the US and other countries. I do believe though it will be brought down here because of the associations with violence & murder. And...Grime is predominantly a Black music genre again so..
To think its not about race doesn't make logical sense, you have to read between the lines but Gloria Gaynor said she believed Disco Sucks was all about Rock label bosses planning on bringing the genre down.

Again this is my opinion and feel free to disagree with it. Forgot to mention about Marilyn, any impressionable music will influence people to commit acts of violence, murder etc. Goes back to even books and perceiving things in differing ways. A guy comes up to John Lennon in the Gimme Some Truth documentary and says everything John sings is about him personally. He replies "its about me, and at best Yoko if its a love song". So whilst Punk, Heavy Metal & Hip Hop are what you'd call inflammatory genres it depends on the individual how they act when they listen to it. For most its just music and videogames, books etc can incite someone of not a sane mind to act up.

We're coming from entirely different perspectives and points of view too so its unlikely we will agree on much and that's the whole purpose of a discussion forum, for debating. But I sensed a degree of malice & condenscending type attitude with the Ali G reference and thought I'd bring that up. We don't need that malice and snide remarks because that type of BS plagues other boards and I visit here because ,9.9 times out of 10 we don't have it here. I'm fine with disagreeing with me,no issue with that, but being condenscending isn't cool. Could be how I perceived it though.

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Re: Disco Demolition - July 12, 1979

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Dr. Zoidberg wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:57 am
I can't remember if it was in an interview or a doco but a few years ago I read/saw Dave Gahan talking about how the English rock journos and fans really hated them in the early to mid 80s.

And they looked like this:

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OK cool. Was it Synth Britannia?. The BBC did a Depeche Mode doc a few years back so could have been that. Again this is news to me as DM are very respected here. Maybe it was because of their dress sense but with New Romantic clothing and makeup I've seen worse.

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Re: Disco Demolition - July 12, 1979

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I didn't see your post first time Bandit but again the campaign against Ozzy and co they didn't smash up their records and go on a Metal sucks campaign. It didn't destroy the genre, sales went up most likely. Hip Hop like Disco took a hit when critics started hating on it.
I mean no offense, but you're completely wrong. I lived through it. I remember. Gangsta rap did not take a hit in popularity, it got bigger and became a phenomenon. NWA were not mainstream until they got negative media coverage and then Straight Outta Compton went platinum and Niggaz4life went to #1. And then labels signed up every gangsta rapper and put them on MTV. Controversy sells and gangsta rap went from underground to #1 albums because of the protests. Same with 2 Live Crew, they were only popular in Florida until they got arrested, and then As Nasty As They Wanna Be went top 10 due to the news coverage.

Heavy metal absolutely went through the same thing as gangsta rap. I don't know what you're reading but it's wrong. I experienced it. I don't know about Disco since I wasn't alive, but I distinctly remember people trying to stop satanic metal bands as much as gangsta rap. And Marilyn Manson later on was so much more controversial than Death Row.

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Re: Disco Demolition - July 12, 1979

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I didn't see your post first time Bandit but again
I mean no offense, but you're completely wrong. I lived through it. I remember. Gangsta rap did not take a hit in popularity, it got bigger and became a phenomenon. NWA were not mainstream until they got negative media coverage and then Straight Outta Compton went platinum and Niggaz4life went to #1. And then labels signed up every gangsta rapper and put them on MTV. Controversy sells and gangsta rap went from underground to #1 albums because of the protests. Same with 2 Live Crew, they were only popular in Florida until they got arrested, and then As Nasty As They Wanna Be went top 10 due to the news coverage.
No offence taken, but again you're coming across as kinda condensing. Hip Hop was big here too, Snoop, Pac, Death Row, Bad Boy etc. Used to listen to Westwood back in the day when he had all the exclusives so I'm well versed in Hip Hop history ;). Listened to E-40, Mac Dre, Bay Area rap. I think you've misconstrued my point. Hip Hop was hit like Disco meant it was targeted just the same as that was. Yea it had a reverse effect and sales went up, but, it was still targeted.
Heavy metal absolutely went through the same thing as gangsta rap. I don't know what you're reading but it's wrong. I experienced it. I don't know about Disco since I wasn't alive, but I distinctly remember people trying to stop satanic metal bands as much as gangsta rap. And Marilyn Manson later on was so much more controversial than Death Row.
I'm not as conservant with Heavy Metal but I know about what went down with the PRMC hearings. The UK media aren't likely to cover much of this because its more US centric but I'm aware of Ozzy and co getting flack for their imagery etc. I can't honestly recall reading any negative publicity about Heavy metal music here, so there may lie the disconnect, US media is more vast and is more likely to cover these topics. I vaguely recall criticism about Gangsta rap and about Marilyn Manson. Goth sub culture was a thing here too. The UK emulates a lot of US culture and trends and has done for years. I think the UK was more accepting of Black music especially like Reggae and there was sub genres of that like Ska and 2 Tone. So the media never really came after certain genres (Rave maybe but because of the drug culture involved & setting up in places they shouldn't) so to me it's senseless how this guy hated on Disco and went after it for the sole purpose of destroying it. How the discussion went off in different avenues idk but getting back to the original topic I personally think and artists like Nile & Gloria Gaynor have said as such it was to bring the Disco genre down. Make up your own mind whether it was to do with race & sexuality.

Back to Hip Hop to conclude. Yea they was against Metal but I didn't see any politician (at least here) go up against it. Rap CDs like Disco (again the point I was making "hit like Disco") were destroyed. To my knowledge there was no public destruction of Metal records. Again I think that was done to disrespect the genre as it was with Disco.

Plus factor in East vs West rap war feulled CD sales and labels signed up artists to capitalise on that too. Agree 110% controversy sells and I didn't say otherwise. I think I'll need to be more clearer with my points in future but I often read between the lines as you often find the real truth there. This is interesting about Tipper Gore and the PRMC


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Re: Disco Demolition - July 12, 1979

Post by Big Boss Man » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:32 am

Messed up the quoting there :psyduck: :flair:

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Re: Disco Demolition - July 12, 1979

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