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Flynt is trolling Trump, because why not?
Speaking of Trump, were you surprised that he’s turned it into such a media circus, making the size of his fingers in relation to the size of his penis actual talking points?

No, I’m not surprised. There’ve been other people in history that have been a lot like Trump. I just watched a documentary about Mussolini and it’s uncanny the resemblance they have, not only in their speech but their whole persona. Trump controls what I call the low-information voters, the low-hanging fruit. I think very few intelligent people are going to be voting for Donald Trump.

I definitely think there’s a lot of truth there. Not necessarily in relation to a man’s fingers, but the kind of cars he drives and the kind of buildings he builds, it all has to do with trying to compensate maybe for a lack of manhood. Trump’s probably got a three-inch dick.
For Immediate Release

(March 4, 2016 – Beverly Hills, CA) HUSTLER Founder and Chairman
Larry Flynt has released the following letter to GOP Presidential
contender Donald Trump:

Dear Mr. Trump,

The credibility of your entire campaign for the Republican presidential nomination hangs in the balance on the basis of one all important issue: the size of your penis.

This issue has been put on the agenda, not by your opponents, not by an inquiring press corps, and not by any of your former wives or mistresses.

You yourself raised this issue in the GOP presidential debate on March 3rd. You said: “He (Senator rubio) referred to my hands‐‐’if they’re small, something else must be small.’ I guarantee you there’s no problem. I guarantee.”

So far we only have your word that you have a huge penis. But there has been no objective authority who has made a verification of your claim. I am making you an offer that you must not refuse if anyone is to believe you. I have a team of doctors ready today to conduct the examination required to confirm your boast. If you reject this offer, I can only conclude that you are not the man you say you are and that your bragging about your penis size is as fraudulent as Trump University.

Please contact me immediately.

Sincerely,
Larry Flynt

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Gary Johnson is wearing Air Max Triax '94 Throwbacks. How is he not winning against two old fucks?

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Republican voters prefer Reeboks?

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Nah, not too many Republicans are voting for him. He's in favor of legalizing all drugs, prostitution and supports gay marriage. They think if he wins their kids will be turning tricks for crack and gay dudes will be buttfucking in their front yard. Which even if they were, you can just turn your garden hose on them like you do dogs fucking to get them to leave, so so what?

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This article goes along with my theory that Trump is an American IQ test far too many people are failing.
Medium: Donald Trump Is The Most Establishment Candidate Ever

Donald Trump may well be burning down the Republican establishment, but the irony is that he’s doing it with many of the same voters who propelled Mitt Romney and John McCain to relatively easy primary victories in the last two elections. We think of what’s happening in the Republican Party as the work of angry ideologues, but beyond the anger part, this isn’t quite right.

Trump’s coalition isn’t easily pigeonholed ideologically. It relies on more casual, less-educated voters attracted to Trump’s personality rather than to any specific brand of Republicanism. Trump supporters don’t seem to mind his past support for single-payer health care, just as Romney supporters didn’t end up minding how he laid the foundation for Obamacare with his Massachusetts health care law. This incoherence is a feature, not a bug, of establishment candidacies.

We often understand primary elections on a one-dimensional ideological scale. But in reality, there’s (at least) a second dimension: the voter’s level of political engagement. “Low-information” voters often masquerade as moderate or somewhat conservative voters in polls, and as a result, we assume they have a substantive preference for more moderate, or electable candidates. But in reality, it’s a preference for the strongest horse, one that doesn’t demand that they first embrace a specific set of ideological precepts.

The untold story of this primary is how Donald Trump has incapacitated the Republican Party’s establishment wing by shearing off the kinds of rank-and-file, non-ideological voters they have always relied upon to muscle through conservative primary challenges. Trump’s apostasies don’t matter just as Romney and McCain’s (relatively tamer) apostasies didn’t matter. As a result, the “establishment” has been an army with officers but no enlisted men, unable to command more than 20% for support for its preferred candidate at any time in the process.

Through the early primaries, pundits and operatives clung fervently to the theory of “lanes.” At a basic level, there is a conservative lane in the primary, now occupied firmly by Ted Cruz, and a moderate/establishment lane, technically now occupied by John Kasich. Each of the lanes attracts the support of its own mutually exclusive bloc of voters. The “establishment” lane is assumed to be the more powerful of the two, in that relative moderates have won the nomination against more conservative challengers in the last few election cycles. The notion that the moderate/establishment lane could have defeated Trump by pooling the votes of Kasich, Rubio, Bush, and Christie in New Hampshire is Peak Lanes Theory. A more comprehensive view of lanes theory, positing the existence of “Tea Party” and “social conservative” wings of the party, can be found in the FiveThirtyEight visual from before Trump, below. Lanes theory framed the strategic assumptions of virtually every candidate in the race, except for one. It’s why non-Trump candidates went after their fellow lane dwellers, leaving the frontrunner undisturbed for months.

But Lanes Theory completely fails to account for Donald Trump. Which lane does Trump occupy? The answer seems to be his own — one of voters who are more likely not to have voted in primaries before and watch shows like The Celebrity Apprentice. And yes, Ted Cruz does seem to be running in a broadened conservative lane, and Kasich in a rump moderate lane, but either coalition alone is unlikely to be enough to win the nomination outright. What is going on?

Lanes Theory is Right, but Incomplete

The notion that voters will naturally line up with their ideological brethren has a kernel of truth to it. John Kasich is not typically doing well in conservative, rural areas, any more than Ted Cruz is in places like Vermont or downtown Chicago. But Trump has drawn a relatively consistent share of the vote nationally that varies based on demographic — not ideological — variables like education levels and the presence of African Americans in a county.

In exit polls, Trump performs well across groups — including moderates and also wins somewhat conservatives, where Mitt Romney also did quite well in 2012. Cruz’s strength with very conservatives is usually enough to outdraw Trump with these voters, but here too Trump’s numbers are respectable.

There is no ideological core to Trump’s appeal, which makes it hard to peg him as a classic insurgent rising to overthrow the moderate/RINO/elite establishment. While this fact seems intelligible to most people by now, it’s also something that was never supposed to happen, which is why nobody spent any time really preparing for it. Under Lanes Theory, if the nominee wasn’t a Marco Rubio or Jeb Bush, it would be someone like a Ted Cruz who united conservatives.

Lanes Theory functions well when it deals with voters who are paying relatively close attention to the election and who have distinct ideological preferences. Ted Cruz and John Kasich supporters are principled voters, driven by a distinct vision of what the Republican Party should be. It’s hard to say the same of Trump voters, which is why ideological attacks (“Trump isn’t a conservative!”) have fallen short.

This conventional wisdom breaks down with voters whose attachment to the Republican Party is more cultural and visceral, who would have much less reason to object to Donald Trump because of his inexperience in government or his past liberal positions. For these voters, often those with lower education levels, ideology and issue positions are much more malleable, and personality can play a bigger role in their choice.

Not Moderate, Not Conservative, But Big

Since 1964, the Republican Party has always nominated the candidate with a prohibitive advantage in name identification over the rest of the field. In every case, name identification was established by virtue of being an incumbent President, Vice President, family member of a President, or past candidate. Nominating a sitting Senator or Governor without a previous national political pedigree is something Republicans haven’t done since Goldwater. Democrats operate differently. Nominees Barack Obama, John Kerry, Bill Clinton, Mike Dukakis, Jimmy Carter, George McGovern, and John F. Kennedy would have all violated this rule.

With his lack of political pedigree, Trump is supposed to tear the rule asunder, but does he?
Republicans this year had candidates from presidential families (Bush) and others who were well known from previous runs (Perry, Santorum, Huckabee). This led many to give them the benefit of the doubt.

But the rule is not necessarily about past experience or pedigree, but about familiarity. Trump entered the Republican race with more name identification nationally than Hillary Clinton. It seems reductive to chalk up his success to this alone, sure, but Trump’s fame — and his concomitant ability to command saturation media coverage — has come in quite handy. This has been especially true in a field with few political brand names, with no one was nearly as famous as Trump. Being a reality TV star and cultural wall covering was sufficient once the voters came to see Trump in a political context, a process that played out over a couple of months in July and August of last year.

I’ve argued that the media’s enablement of Trump has led to his rise, given the strong statistical evidence that media coverage is both strongly correlated with and a leading indicator of poll numbers.

The finding that Trump has received a whopping $2 billion in free media coverage is the story of this election.

You might well argue that the Trump media deluge has been unfair to other candidates (I believe it has been) but it’s also quite clear it has influenced the kinds of casual voters who typically weigh in decisively for establishment frontrunners in the end. To be the nominee, you need national legitimacy.

Voters will view those they don’t knew very much about through a skeptical lens, even if they like what they’re saying. Marco Rubio and Ben Carson had the best favorability ratings in the field, as does Bernie Sanders on the Democratic side, but this year, they’ve lacked the legitimacy afforded by a national brand. It’s almost as if there’s something holding voters back. If they’re so good, why am I not hearing more about them?

Trumpmania stopped you from hearing more about them.

To me, this fact is the key to understanding why the Lanes Theory, that supported the inevitability of establishment frontrunners and drove complacency among the donor and operative classes, broke down so badly this year.

In a traditional context, political fame is achieved through demonstrated success in national office or in a previous campaign. The media then tends to cover these candidates more, granting them further legitimacy. This was the Romney or McCain model.
We now know that when this fame is established outside the traditional channels, and also proves too big a draw for the media to resist, the model utterly breaks down. (Perhaps Arnold Schwarzenegger was the canary in the coal mine for this.)

It also means that our idea of what an establishment candidate is, and how they gathered support in previous elections (our mental frame of reference when planning for this election) is completely wrong.

In the minds of the political class, Romney and McCain voters opted mindfully for sober, responsible, center-right candidates who could win the general election. This is the story that Republican establishment donors, operatives, and consultants tell themselves.

But in reality, many voters prefer big personalities and obvious choices. A big personality was why George W. Bush was the last truly successful national Republican leader, and of course, why Ronald Reagan was before him.

We graft on ideological explanations to elections (“the voters are angry!”) when the most Presidential general elections can be predicted by a relatively simple heuristic: Warm beats cold.

Trump is now testing the proposition that you can turn the personality/celebrity/fame dial to 100 and the policy/ideological dial to 0 and still win. We shall see if it works. Policy matters a good deal less than we think in elections, but what if it matters hardly if at all? If that’s the case, the powerlessness of appeals based on ideology, even within the Republican Party, is something that should reset the worldview of a great many people who do this for a living.

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Boy, I wonder why Americans of all political stances greatly cheer on the slow death of the mainstream media?

"One and done" should have been the single year of your shitty career, you hack.

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JUPITER — Corey Lewandowski, Donald Trump campaign manager, was charged this morning with misdemeanor battery after allegations of forcefully grabbing a reporter at a Jupiter news conference, town police confirmed this morning.

Following a March 8 conference at Trump National Golf Club, Michelle Fields, a 28-year-old reporter formerly with the online Breitbart News Network, said she was grabbed on the arm by Lewandowski, 41, after she asked Trump a question about affirmative action.

Washington Post reporter Ben Terris wrote that he witnessed the battery.

Jupiter police later said they were looking into the incident after Fields filed a report, although investigators had not named Lewandowski.

Lewandowski turned himself in to Jupiter police just after 8 a.m., accoriding to a police report.

Surveillance footage captured at Trump National, off Donald Ross Road, corroborates Feilds’ claim, the arrest report says.

Fields, who Tweeted photos of bruises on her arm she said resulted from the battery, resigned Breitbart less than a week after the incident. She cited Breitbart’s refusal to stand behind her amid the allegations as her reason for leaving.

Lewandowski replied to Fields’ Tweet, writing: “You are totally delusional. I never touched you. As a matter of fact, I have never even met you.”

Ben Shapiro, former Breitbart editor-at-large, also resigned, claiming in a prepared statement that the conservative news outlet, seen largely as supportive of Trump’s presidential bid, “abandoned” Fields “in order to protect Trump’s bully campaign manager.”

Several other employees followed suit in the following weeks and resigned, according to multiple reports.

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Wisconsin Police: Teen Girl Sexually Assaulted, Pepper-Sprayed Outside Trump Rally

JANESVILLE, Wis. (CBSNewYork/AP) — Wisconsin police said a 15-year-old girl was sexually assaulted and pepper-sprayed outside a Donald Trump rally in Janesville Tuesday.

Video of the incident, posted by Wisconsin State Journal’s Molly Beck, shows the girl getting pepper-sprayed after appearing to throw a punch at someone off camera.

“This ended with the blonde woman punching that man, then getting pepper spray thrown in her face (and on me),” Beck tweeted.



The incident happened at the rally outside the Holiday Inn Express and Janesville Convention Center which was attended by nearly 1,000 people.

“A 15-year-[old] girl from Janesville was peppered sprayed in the crowd by a non-law enforcement person. A 19-year-old woman from Madison received 2nd hand spray as well. Both individuals received medical attention at local hospitals. A male in the [crowd] groped the 15-year-[old] girl, when she pushed him away; another person in the [crowd] sprayed her. We are currently looking for two suspects, one for the sexual assault and one for the pepper spray,” the Janesville Police Department said in a statement.

On Monday, police said six anti-Trump protesters were arrested on charges of disorderly conduct, obstructing an officer and trespassing.

Trump told supporters at the Tuesday rally that “if we win Wisconsin, it’s pretty much over,” noting his significant delegate lead over rivals Ted Cruz and John Kasich. Trump held the rally in Janesville, Wisconsin, hometown of House Speaker Paul Ryan — who last week called for more civility in politics even as the Republican presidential race grew more personal and nasty.

Trump arrived in Wisconsin fending off another controversy that eclipsed his message and well as those of his rivals, all of whom converged on the state a week from the pivotal vote.

Trump’s campaign manager Corey Lewandowski was charged with misdemeanor battery in Florida on Tuesday over an altercation with a reporter earlier this month, prompting Cruz to accuse the billionaire front-runner of fostering a culture of “abusive behavior.”

The news overshadowed Trump’s efforts to make gains in Wisconsin ahead of its April 5 primary as Cruz lured support from some of the state’s most influential voices. Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, a former GOP presidential contender, endorsed Cruz Tuesday, saying he believes the Texas senator is best positioned to win the GOP nomination and defeat presumed general election rival Hillary Clinton.

Source: CBS




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Um.

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:olol:

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I can't refute this point. Touche, Doug.

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Jesus. Trump must be secretly from West Virginia talking about his young daughter like that.

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But notice when they grew up, he stopped sexualizing Tiffany and only sexualizes Ivanka. "Sorry, but you're just porn site hot, not model hot, sweetie."

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Bandit wrote:But notice when they grew up, he stopped sexualizing Tiffany and only sexualizes Ivanka. "Sorry, but you're just porn site hot, not model hot, sweetie."
Well, as he said "A person who is very flat-chested is very hard to be a 10"

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Hillary Clinton and New York Mayor Bill de Blasio sparked controversy at an event on Saturday with a racially charged joke.

Clinton and de Blasio were joined onstage by Leslie Odom Jr. in costume as Aaron Burr, whom he plays in the hit Broadway musical Hamilton. Clinton thanked de Blasio for his endorsement—which many pointed out came rather late in the game—and ribbed him, “Took you long enough.”

The mayor replied, “Sorry, Hillary, I was running on C.P. time.”

The abbreviation refers to the stereotype of “Colored People time,” and several people in the audience could be heard gasping or groaning. Odom, who is black and whom the New York Times suggests was in on the joke, rebuked him, saying, “I don’t like jokes like that, Bill.”

Clinton dryly replied, “Cautious politician time. I’ve been there.”

The exchange prompted pushback online, both from bloggers and social media users.

"It was clearly a staged show. It was a scripted show and the whole idea was to do the counter-intuitive and say, 'cautious politician time,'" de Blasio said Monday.

A spokesperson for de Blasio responded to the flap by noting the skit was satire and not meant to offend.

"Let's be clear, in an evening of satire, the only person this was meant to mock was the mayor himself," said the spokesperson said. "Certainly no one intended to offend anyone."

Bakari Sellers, a CNN contributor and Clinton supporter, said this controversy was "much ado about nothing."

"We are not worried about jokes that may not be funny," said Sellers, who is black. "This is not a big deal. It is a big deal that we have to remedy mass incarceration; it is a big deal that we have to remedy African-American wealth. That is what we have to focus on."

Clinton, who has performed well with black voters in early primaries, will depend on their votes in the New York primary on April 19.

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I'm not too into politics but I did catch part of the debate last night and boy, Clinton got an asswhoopin.

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