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Big Boss Man
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by Big Boss Man » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:43 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/46874049
Still PM by 19 votes.
I think they have til March 29th to sort this Brexit mess out. The stories using stealth scare tactics (mixed in with patriotic hyperbole which in turn was fueling xenophobic attitudes against immigrants, many who have a legal right to UK citizenship) to get people to vote leave has backfired massively. If the UK are booted out of the EU with no deal in place I can't look beyond putting the blame solely on the Conservative government. Cameron set the whole ball rolling and bailed out. They say Labour left a note in the Treasury saying they spent all the money but what the Tories are potentially doing is much, much worse. Since the UK doesn't have any real valuable exports, the Tories again shut down the shipping, mining, majority of factories etc so again it's essentially their fault.
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by Bandit » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:48 am
Maybe this sign from a protester will cheer you up some.
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Big Boss Man
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by Big Boss Man » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:01 pm
Thank you! and yes the sign made me
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by Hawq » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:42 am
damnit they might read that comment & try to overrule it now
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by Big Boss Man » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:39 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47576813
MPs have voted by 412 to 202 for Prime Minister Theresa May to ask the EU for a delay to Brexit.
It means the UK may not now leave on 29 March as previously planned.
Mrs May says Brexit could be delayed by three months, to 30 June, if MPs back her withdrawal deal in a vote next week.
If they reject her deal again then she says she will seek a longer extension - but any delay has to be agreed by the 27 other EU member states.
What if the other EU members refuse?
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by Matisfaction » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:07 am
Simple tactics really, stall, stall, stall and and hope that people get fed up and change their minds.
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by melancholy » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:24 am
I really don’t understand the nuances of Brexit, but my big question is what leverage does the UK even have to beg for extensions or fight for better deals? I mean, the EU doesn’t want them to leave, so what stops them from just saying, ‘nope, either take the deal we gave you, leave with no deal, or just stay in and never bring it up again.’
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by Matisfaction » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:08 am
No deal is the UK's biggest bargaining chip.
There's a myriad of issues, but basically we have a split government within a coalition, trying to negotiate a crap deal to keep us in the customs union; because leaving the customs union would be a massive pain in the backside.
One of Theresa May's biggest mistakes was calling for a general election, she was arrogant enough to think that the Tories would win by an absolute landslide, but they only managed to cling on to power by forming a coalition with the DUP (not a good idea), thus significantly weakening their influence.
There's also the fact that both the majority of Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to remain.
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by Matisfaction » Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:43 am
She could quit now and do us all a favour.
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Big Boss Man
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by Big Boss Man » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:36 am
True but in fairness to her, it's actually Cameron's mess which she has been left to tidy up. He bailed out when the vote for Brexit came in, so it's all really his fault. The Tories should never had let the general public vote on such an important matter in the first place anyway when they weren't really informed of the full extent of what they were actually voting for. Really they should have overruled the "Leave" vote and stayed in the EU.
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by Matisfaction » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:11 am
It's actually the Tories mess, Cameron started it, but May has done a fine job of messing things up even further.
Like I said before, you've now got a split government within a coalition with the DUP Marvelous!!
