Its that time again, Calavera computer upgrade advice thread!

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Re: Its that time again, Calavera computer upgrade advice thread!

Post by Dr. Zoidberg » Wed May 20, 2020 12:51 am

AMD have a change of heart.


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Post by pixel » Wed May 20, 2020 3:05 am

Wow :whoa: If AMD keeps on this track, X570 boards will be supported for a long while. Looks like my X470 build might get a CPU upgrade in a few years, which means my B450 HTPC will get the hand-me-down 2600X.

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Post by Calavera » Sun May 31, 2020 10:01 am

Just a little update to say everything is working great. One thing I am really impressed with is the temperatures of the 1660 super. When gaming it only gets around 100f-120f (38c-48c) and it usually is on the lower end of that. I messed around with overclocking it and it can do 2100mhz core and 1900mhz memory which is a fairly decent overclock. I'm leaving it at stock for now since I don't see much of a need to overclock.

I still wonder why in the listing on Newegg for the card it lists the core clock as 1785mhz yet with no overclocking at all it goes up to 1905mhz when running a demanding game. I'd think they would want to advertise the highest clock it achieves.
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Post by Calavera » Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:14 pm

I haven't even bothered trying to overclock the 3600x as I really don't get the point. I see people saying that overclocked it to 4.2ghz on all cores but it boosts around 4.1ghz on all cores anyways. An extra 100mhz is a pretty useless overclock imo. Idk even if you could get 4.4ghz on all cores it just doesn't seem worth it. The difference is not going to be noticeable. The only thing it will achieve it a slightly higher score in Cinebench. Whoopee!
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Re: Its that time again, Calavera computer upgrade advice thread!

Post by melancholy » Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:39 pm

So was it worth it then? As long of a road as this has been over the years, I hope the final result met your expectations.

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Re: Its that time again, Calavera computer upgrade advice thread!

Post by Calavera » Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:02 pm

melancholy wrote:
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So was it worth it then? As long of a road as this has been over the years, I hope the final result met your expectations.
Yep I am pretty happy with it. It is nice the X570 is going to be compatible with the next Ryzen 4000 CPUs although I think the 3600x should be more than enough for gaming for quite awhile. The 1660 Super is a very nice improvement over the loud hot R9 290X. It is amazing to me that the 1660 Super stays so cool. I am used to temps in the 190s during gaming while the 1660 Super runs at just over 100F. A 90F degree drop in temps! And for the price it much more powerful than the 290X. I may have mentioned this before but Assassin's Creed Odyssey went from 35FPS average on very high to 70fps with the 1660 Super. Lower power consumption,cooler,quieter and double the frames? Can't complain about that!

So yes I am happy with the build. My old i5-3570k still worked pretty good but it was time to upgrade and I had the extra money so I'm glad I did. It seems I ordered it just in time too as I've heard there is a shortage of motherboards,psus and gpus right now. Looking at Newegg the PSU,CPU,GPU and motherboard I ordered are all out of stock. The only part of my build that is still in stock is the ram.

What are your specs Mel? If you've got a more powerful GPU then maybe I can buy it from you in a few years when you upgrade! :heyhey:
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Re: Its that time again, Calavera computer upgrade advice thread!

Post by melancholy » Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:40 pm

Calavera wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:02 pm
What are your specs Mel? If you've got a more powerful GPU then maybe I can buy it from you in a few years when you upgrade! :heyhey:
Intel i5-9600k
MSI Z390 Gaming Plus Motherboard
MSI RTX 2070 Gaming Z
16GB DDR4 3400
Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2 as the boot drive

As for my old parts, you’d have to fight my son for them. He gets all my old stuff. His desktop has my old i5-6600 and GTX 1070 in it...for Roblox. :grr:

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Post by Calavera » Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:35 am

melancholy wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:40 pm
As for my old parts, you’d have to fight my son for them. He gets all my old stuff. His desktop has my old i5-6600 and GTX 1070 in it...for Roblox. :grr:
I usually am against fighting children, but if it will get me an RTX 2070 then tell him to bring it on! :olol:
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Post by Calavera » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:56 pm

melancholy wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:40 pm

Intel i5-9600k
MSI Z390 Gaming Plus Motherboard
MSI RTX 2070 Gaming Z
16GB DDR4 3400
Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2 as the boot drive
What do you have your 9600k overclocked to? Apparently they can do 5ghz. I didn't look much into it though so idk if that is possible on air. How about the 2070, tried overclocking that any? As for your M.2 drive have you tried installing any games to it? Particularly some that usually have long load times? Just curious how much faster they load for you. I plan on getting an M.2 the next time I have some extra money to spend. Lastly have you ever tried overclocking your ram? Even in the old days when I was big into overclocking that is one thing I never did. When you overclock your CPU or GPU you can actually see the difference. Whether it be something like a video converting faster or gaining a few FPS in games you can actually see that the performance has increased. With RAM is seemed that if you overclock you are not going to notice any difference at all.
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Re: Its that time again, Calavera computer upgrade advice thread!

Post by melancholy » Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:56 pm

I have no overclocking on anything. I don’t see the need to. As for the M.2, I have two of them in my PC. The much faster Samsung Evo Plus is only for Windows and install applications. Nothing else is on it. The second drive is some Intel drive. Not sure the model but it was very cheap, and therefore on the low end of M.2 drives, so it’s speed is only a little faster than a SATA SSD.

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Re: Its that time again, Calavera computer upgrade advice thread!

Post by Calavera » Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:13 am

melancholy wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:56 pm
I have no overclocking on anything. I don’t see the need to.
I don't blame you. I was more into overclocking in my younger days I guess. Getting my 5400+ to run a 3.2.ghz instead of the stock 2.8 was pretty cool to me back then. Even though that extra 400mhz probably isn't going to make any real noticeable difference. I never really tried overclocking my 290x except just to run a few benchmarks. I can't remember how much it oc'ed but I want to say it wasn't much. Plus that card ran hot enough at stock speeds.

The 1660 Super overclocks decently but I feel like I will cause it to "wear out" running it at higher clocks all the time even though I know that isn't true at all!

Here is a Shadow of the Tomb Raider benchmark I did with everything maxed out except for anisotropic filtering which was at 8x instead of 16x. But I doubt that would make much difference anyways.

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An extra 7fps isn't too bad. In this case there isn't much reason to do so but if the difference was 53fps stock vs 60fps overclocked then it would totally be worth it. For now though I'll probably just leave it at stock. Maybe I'll run it at the higher clocks if I'm playing a really demanding game.

Honestly though nowadays I can't even notice much difference between medium settings and ultra settings. The main difference I notice is the large drop in FPS! I remember when those settings made a HUGE difference! In the early 2000s in PC games the difference between low and highest was almost like PS1 to Dreamcast. The difference was huge. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but in most games that seems to be the case.
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Re: Its that time again, Calavera computer upgrade advice thread!

Post by Calavera » Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:59 pm

I don't think I mentioned this before but the 1660 Super is the first Nvidia video card I've bought since back in either 2000 or 2001. The first 3D video card I ever had was a Voodoo3 2000 that my brother added to the 500mhz HP computer we had. After that I had a Gateway PC that came with a Geforce 2 GTS 32MB AGP card. It wasn't long before that was outdated. Next was an ATI 9850. If you got lucky you could unlock extra pipelines to make it into a 9870 and mine unlocked just fine with no artifacts! After that I believe my next card was a Radeon X1950 Pro. Next was the HD 3850 AGP. Not long after that I built a new PC and sold the AGP card and bought a PCI-E HD 3870. The next card was a HD 6850 which I remember almost nothing about for some reason. Then came the R9 290X which I replaced with the GTX 1660 Super.

So actually I have never even purchased an Nvidia card on its own before. The Geforce2 GTS came preinstalled in the Gateway. So this is actually the first time in my life I have bought an Nvidia card! I would have went with the RTX 2060 for this build but it was more than I was wanting to spend.

So there is my personal history of graphic cards. Very interesting isn't it? :olol: What made me want to write this post is finding some old 3DMark results in an old backup folder. Here they are if anybody is interested in having a look into the past!

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